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Is fire service's expansion into EMS just more big government?

As the so-called fiscal cliff looms, the left and the right in Congress are deciding whether to cut public services or raise taxes. Some politicians are completely against new taxes, entitlements and universal health care, arguing they lead to big government.

Fewer tax dollars coming in and greater debt owed to China means the federal budget needs deeper cuts — it's that simple. That means even with the recent move in the Senate to protect FIRE and SAFER grants and the U.S. Fire Administration, a government agency must prove its worth and create revenue to survive the new economic epoch. In addition, any program that expands the government into the private sector — like the fire services' move into EMS — must justify its actions.

So, is fire-based EMS more big government? Is it right for the fire service to expand into these services?

To those who oppose big government, fire-based EMS grows — rather than limits — the size of government and oversteps into the private sector. Indeed, private ambulance companies should bear the burden of service and cost-and-recovery in a free market, not the government.

Of course, there are plenty of chiefs out there who can make the business case for integrating fire departments into the healthcare delivery system. For example, the fire service already has the trained personnel, apparatus, relationships with hospitals, and strategically located fire stations to serve communities, Mike Metro, deputy chief of the Los Angeles County Fire Department, said during a recent interview.

Metro — who also sits on the International Association of Fire Chiefs' EMS Section's executive board — envisions a future fire/medical service that chooses the pathways to care. This means being allowed to analyze a patient's need, determine the severity and then recommend a course of care — whether it is a follow up with the doctor the next day or an ambulance transport to the emergency room. This will improve care and reduce national healthcare costs — with fewer expensive emergency-rooms visits and ambulance rides, he said.

To expand, the fire service has to face those who are dead-set against the expansion of government services. Chiefs need to prove fire/EMS' worth to taxpayers as if they were pitching a business plan to Silicon Valley venture capitalists — with data, charts, graphs and expertise. Indeed, private-ambulance companies are pitching their business plans and, most probably, already have the attention of those with free market, anti-big government philosophies.

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Metro understands the competition the fire service faces in the private market (something the industry quietly has named "The Ambulance Wars") and the importance of making a case for EMS.

"The fire service is facing competitors to our fire suppression and EMS deliveries," he said. "It is coming to the point where the fire department has to prove it is the best option for public safety."

It's fair in the current economic times to expect public safety to consider the bottom line and compete in order to stay afloat. The fire service needs to be run like a business, in essence, and create revenue streams. But then again, is that truly the role of the government or is it, constitutionally, the role of the private sector? That's for you to decide.

What do you think? Tell us in the comment box below.

Discuss this Blog Entry 7

Anonymous (not verified)
on Dec 13, 2012

I have yet ot see a fully intergrated fire/ems service that works as well as when the 2 are seperated. The intergration has nothing to do with better service but all to do with the need for Fire to be able to make a case for the millions they cost the taxpayers each year. I believe that a seperaton should continue and fire get money from insurance when responding to MVA's and Structure fires.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Dec 13, 2012

This article assumes that "emergency medical services" are the same thing as "ambulance service" and that "ambulance service" is a function of the private sector.

Only true in parts of the United States. In many major cities (NY, Boston, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Indianapolis) and in several states (WVA, NC, FL, much of IA), EMS has long been and in some cases is statutorily mandated GOVERNMENT service. Not "more big government" but a core governmental service.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Dec 13, 2012

The Fire Service has been dying for years, and yet contiues to think increased training and new equipment was going to save the day! Guess what, it didn't! GPS-TIC, none of this causes the public to send FD's more money. Time is running out!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Dec 13, 2012

I can't believe this is an issue. Our department started providing EMS in 1974!

Anonymous (not verified)
on Dec 14, 2012

The fire transport model in the majority of urban cities is broken. Reimbursement is limited or in many cases, non-existent. The fire workforce rarely embraces non-emergency services and non-traditional deployment systems (system status) to increase performance and efficiency. At some point, if the fire service wants to really become equivalent with corporate systems, they will need to embrace survival more than tradition and being consumed with fires.

Anonymous (not verified)
on Jan 2, 2013

I agree with Anonymous #4. We've been providing pre-hospital care since the Wedsworth-Townsend Act in the late 1960's cleared the way for Fire Based EMS. They even made a television show about us in the 1970's called "Emergency", chronicling the success of dual trained firefighter/paramedics. We put this argument to rest 40 years ago! Even the author of the article seems out of step with what's going on by asking the question, "Should the Fire Sevice expand into these services?" Expand? Guess what Mary Rose Roberts, we've been doing it, we're doing it today and the fire service will always be involved in some level of pre-hospital care. It's inevitable! This issue always comes up when someone who is unfamiliar with how successful many pre-hospital care programs are, don't know the history of it, don't care and limit their field of research. Outside of that, it's usually questioned by a bunch of bitter, private ambulance folks. I can't believe we're bringing this crap up 40 years later!!

7betk
on Apr 30, 2013

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